ΟΙ Δηλώσεις του DORDE IVANOV, για το θέμα της ονομασίας της ΦΥΡΟΜ μετά την εκλογή του.

Τρίτη, 7 Απριλίου 2009 10:32 μμ |

Ο Πρόεδρος της ΦΥΡΟΜ Dorde Ivanov, μια μέρα μετά την εκλογή του, δηλώνει για την διαμάχη με την Ελλάδα σχετικά με το θέμα της ονομασίας:

THE ECONOMIST; THE NAME GAME; FYROM IS LOSING SYMPATHY...

Κυριακή, 5 Απριλίου 2009 0:48 πμ |

FYROM has won sympathy from other European countries in this dispute. But under the nationalist Mr Gruevski, it is losing it.

When FYROM renamed Skopje airport for Alexander the Great in 2007, this seemed a one-off to annoy Greece. More recently, however, the government has broadened a policy the opposition calls "antiquisation". The main road to Greece has been renamed for Alexander and the national sports stadium named after his father, and plans are afoot to erect a huge statue of Alexander in central Skopje. These gestures play well to a public that was incensed by Greece';s veto of an invitation to FYROM to join NATO, but the country is losing friends. "It is nuts," sighs one diplomat. "They don';t see the cause and effect."

Alexander died in 323BC. The Slavs arrived only a thousand years later.

http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13414181

EU: ''Macedonian'', Identity to be redefined!

Παρασκευή, 3 Απριλίου 2009 9:03 πμ |

Macedonian Identity "To Be Defined"

Skopje | 02 April 2009 | 
 
The European Commission has decided to redefine the terms "Macedonian", "Macedonians" and country code "MK" in its institutional style guide, Erik Meijer, European Parliament Rapporteur for Macedonia, suspects.
According to information obtained by Eric Meijer, these terms now in common use are to be replaced with the designation "to be defined", in order to satisfy Greece's objections to the name "Macedonia". The "altered" style guide is not yet available to the public.

Meijer was cited by the Macedonian national news agency, MIA, asking the EC whether it takes into account that this only complicates matters by taking the "name" row into new and "very sensitive" fields of national identity that will be "impossible to solve".

However, in an interview for local Alfa TV this afternoon Meijer said he got reassured by the EC that this means nothing in practice. "It means the situation will not change" and the terms will remain in use, he said.

Athens blocked Skopje last April from NATO entry, objecting that only the Greek northern province has the right to call itself Macedonia. Greece stated that it could block Macedonia's EU accession as well, if it did not change its name.

In an EC response to Meijer, MIA reports, EC President Jose Manuel Barroso confirms it is true they used standard names until recently, but that, in the summer of 2008, a decision was taken to make this change. Thus, in the inter institutional style guide compiled by the Office for Official Publications of the European Communities, these terms have been replaced with "to be defined". The commission says all references are strictly in accordance with United Nations Security Council Resolution 817/93.

Meijer also expresses concerns about the delaying of the date for opening EU accession talks for Macedonia, despite recent European Parliament recommendations assessing that Greek opposition could continue for years, MIA reported. The country achieved candidate status in 2005, but the EC did not grant an extended recommendation for further progress due to insufficient internal reforms.

Long-standing UN-sponsored name talks between Macedonia and Greece have so far been in vain. While Greece insists a composite name for its neighbour should be used by all countries, Macedonia accepts a mutually agreeable name only in correspondence with Greece, since only this country has such problems.

Additionally, the talks have in effect ground to a halt, as both countries are currently occupied with domestic elections.

ΣΥΜΒΙΒΑΣΜΟ ΜΕ ΤΗΝ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΖΗΤΑΕΙ ΚΑΙ ΣΗΜΕΡΑ Ο ΚΙΡΟ ΓΚΛΙΓΚΟΡΟΦ!

Παρασκευή, 27 Μαρτίου 2009 11:19 μμ |

Ενα συμβιβασμό με την Ελλάδα ζητάει και σήμερα ο Κίρο Γκλιγκόροφ! Οι έλληνες κατέχουν το μεγαλύτερο γεωγραφικό κομμάτι της Μακεδονίαςκαι πρέπει να το σεβαστούμε αυτό!

Kiro Gligorov, Former President of FYROM, Demands a Compromise With  Greece [22-III-2009]

Excerpt from the interview of Kiro Gligorov, a veteran politician in Ex-Yugoslavia and former President of FYROM, given to A1';s Biljana Sekulovska. Mr. Gligorov urges for compromise with Greece with regard to the name dispute based on principles of reciprocal respect for interests.

FYROM: ROBERT MARQUAND DISCUSSES PSEUDOMACEDONIAN IDEOLOGY

Παρασκευή, 27 Μαρτίου 2009 10:52 πμ |

ΤΟ ΘΑΥΜΑ ΤΩΝ ΕΚΛΟΓΩΝ ΣΤΑ ΣΚΟ(Ρ)ΠΙΑ! THE ELECTION MIRACLE IN SKOPJE!

Πέμπτη, 26 Μαρτίου 2009 4:47 μμ |

THE SKOPJEN GOD, THE GOD OF THE MAKENOIDEN (They call themeselves something similar...)

HAS APPEARED THE ELECTION DAY AND MADE A MIRACLE JUST FOR THEM!!!

OH GOD ALMIGHTY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION IN THE FYROMIAN BABYLON!

FOR LAUGHT JUST READ THE REST...

ΔΙΑΒΑΣΤΕ ΚΑΙ ΓΕΛΑΣΤΕ... ΠΩΣ Ο ΘΕΟΣ ΠΟΛΛΑΠΛΑΣΙΑΣΕ ΤΟΥΣ ΣΚΟΠΙΑΝΟΥΣ ΓΙΑ ΤΙΣ ΜΕΡΕΣ ΤΩΝ ΕΚΛΟΓΩΝ!

http://macedonia-greece.blogspot.com/2009/03/blog-post_26.html

ΠΟΙΟΣ ΗΤΑΝ Ο ΟΔΥΣΣΕΑΣ; Μα ΣΚΟΠΙΑΝΟΣ ΦΥΣΙΚΑ!

Πέμπτη, 26 Μαρτίου 2009 0:29 πμ |

JUST FOR LAUGHT!!! Μόνο για γέλια!!!

The Slavobulgarian minority of Fyrom suggest that Odysseus is Now Slavobulgarian as All Greek History!!!

Their Serious Historians after a 2-3 months accurative research discovered the Truth about the Worldwide Universities Conspiracy

of the Ancient History!

If you understand Fyromianenglish watch the video and burn your History books!

A new History beggins with the discover of the Fyromian Nation!

Nέο "βίντεο" διαμάντι, αποκαλύπτει το http://taxalia.blogspot.com
Ιλιάδα και Οδύσσεια: Το τέλος του ελληνικού μύθου. Το όνομα Οδυσσέας, βγαίνει από τη "Μακεδονική" λέξη Ontis,

που σημαίνει Πήγαινε και η Ιλιάδα, από το ...Ιλιντεν...και...μα τι τους ποτίζουν;;;;

ΔΕΙΤΕ ΤΟ ΒΙΝΤΕΟ -ΜΕ ΨΥΧΡΑΙΜΙΑ, ΟΠΩΣ ΠΑΝΤΑ-...κλικ στο περισσότερα κι ο Θεός βοηθός...

2.300 YEARS LATER, 'ALEXANDER-MANIA' GRIPS FYROM

Τρίτη, 24 Μαρτίου 2009 0:44 πμ |

By Robert Marquand
2,300 years later, 'Alexander-mania' grips FYROM
Much to the anger of Greece, the ancient conqueror is making a big comeback in Fyrom - he's arriving just in time for Sunday's election.
SKOPJE, FYROM - As part of a stunning new homegrown ideology of history and identity based on Alexander the Great, this capital city's main square may soon boast a huge new statue of the ancient conqueror.

Two years ago, the national airport was renamed after Alexander, infuriating Greece.

In January, despite a recent Greek nixing of FYROM'S NATO bid over the airport name, the ruling nationalists here changed the name of its main roadway to Alexander of Macedon Highway.

In FYROM, it is becoming all Alexander the Great, all the time. Ahead of Sunday's presidential elections, the ruling party's Alexander ideology is seen as fantastic, even by Balkan standards.

In an intense media campaign, locals are told that ethnic 'Macedonians' are the proud direct descendants of Alexander, and thus a people responsible for spawning the white race of planet Earth, from the Caucasus "to the seas off Japan," according to a public service spot on national TV.

The "Alexander-mania," as critics call it, is partly a vote-getting strategy by the ruling party, known by its initials VMRO. Doubts exist as to whether party leaders actually believe the claims, but they are being sold as truth. The failure last spring to get a clear NATO invitation prompted fury in Skopje, and the Alexander campaign is seen as an effort to up the ante.

By pushing its thumb further into the already sore eye of Greece, both NATO and EU membership for the small, landlocked state remains in limbo. FYROM is also distracted from reducing tensions with its sizable Albanian minority community following a brief ethnic war in 2001, diplomats say.

The dispute with Greece, largely unchanged since 1991, centers on a fight over the use of "Macedonia" as the country's name. Greece wants a name that doesn't include or at least deemphasizes "Macedonia," which Greeks say is their own. The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia says its name is its own sovereign business. Negotiations have been endless.

For years, Greek demands were seen as cock-eyed and petty in diplomatic circles. Yet  FYROM has been losing sympathy as it roars out heritage claims on Alexander.

"If the name is the condition of our survival, which it seems to be, we are very far from reaching our strategic aims: NATO and the EU," says former FYROM Foreign Minister Denko Maleski. "The new way of thinking about history is keeping tensions alive. We are a new nation, liberal and international, suddenly veering into the 19th century."

A poll last month showed that 97 percent of ethnic 'Macedonians' favored staying out of the EU if it meant compromising on the name.

"The name dispute is more than a bilateral issue between Skopje and Athens. It risks derailing the main strategy of both NATO and the EU for stabilizing FYROM," says a recent report from the International Crisis Group.

Some diplomats frame Sunday's elections as a vote for a president who may push Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski for a name resolution versus a nationalist who would not. Right now, it appears that VMRO's George Ivanov, an architect of the Alexander discourse, is set to win big. The opposition is in disarray, and FYROM could end up with a one-party state.

"The entire nationalism hysteria, which only few question as most media get huge sums of money through government advertising, serves not only as a distraction from serious problems ... but has created an atmosphere that makes compromise difficult. It reminds me a bit of the madness of Serbia in the '90s, though not on the same scale, when Serbs spoke of themselves as 'the heavenly people,' " says Ana Petruseva, managing editor of Balkan Insight, in Skopje.

Indee, FYROM's bold claim to be the taproot of Western civilization is daily media fare.

Last summer, the government flew in members of Pakistan's Hunza tribe, considered lost descendants of Alexander, to tour the country. Startled and pleased Hunza were greeted at Alexander airport with flowers and treated like long lost cousins as they disported across the nation, cameras in tow.

Even "God" has gotten involved. A nine-minute TV ad starts with a petition from FYROM to the heavens: "Our neighbors distributed thousands of books across the world, containing false history and portraying a wrong picture about FYROM. ... Only you know our pain." The Almighty then responds: "From you, Macedonians, descendants of Macedon, I conceived the white race. All that stretches to the seas off Japan is conceived from your genes."

Sinisa-Jakov Marusic, a columnist for Balkan Insight, cheekily observed, "So there you have it! What better proof than God himself?"

Beyond theatrics, the new program deeply troubles many scholars and intellectuals here - who are being sidelined - for its promulgation of myth as truth. The new taxpayer-funded Alexander ideology has no serious texts.

Unlike Serbia's Kosovo story, based on centuries of poetry and legend, the FYROMIAN ideology is being both invented and presented at the same time. There is no outside scholarly consensus, no textual tradition; the result is a kind of history-free history. The top-down, debate-free imposition of the new history is itself seen as illiberal and authoritarian.

The new program deeply troubles many scholars here. "What is the content of 'Alexanderization?'" asks Irena Stefoska, a Byzantine scholar at the Institute of National History here. "Who knows? It is a new reading of history completely different from the previous, not done from an academic point of view, but from a purely political view."

Alexander is considered one of the greatest military leaders of all time. Born in the Greek city of Pella in 356 BC, his conquests extended to most of his known world by the time of his death at age 32. He opened up Greek civilization from the Mediterranean to India, and is regarded as the first to link Europe, Asia, and Africa.

"Alexander was the captain general of all the Hellenes. He spoke Greek. He went to war on behalf of the Hellenes. No one in the ancient, medieval, or modern world has disputed this," says Michael Wood, a historian and British filmmaker who has produced a work on Alexander and has another in the making.

"The FYROM state claim has no basis in history; it is a state-sponsored myth. I tell my Macedonian and Greek friends to ignore it," Mr. Wood adds.

State archaeologists in Skopje and Athens, however, are busy unearthing ancient Hellenic artifacts, which are then presented as evidence of Alexander heritage. Advocates of this new history leap from the present day to ancient times, ignoring Ottoman, Slavonian, and Byzantine periods when the Balkan peoples migrated and mingled.

"The problem is that no one today can be the direct descendants of ancient civilizations," says Ms. Stefoska. "FYROMIANS are Slavs. Our Slavonic heritage is accepted by historians."

Several years ago, VMRO officials claimed that FYROM's majority population had an ethnic Bulgarian or Slavic origin.

A chief fear here is a scenario of partition - of north Kosovo Serbs in the Mitrovica area joining Serbia proper, which could push FYROM'S and Kosovar Albanians into a union, breaking FYROM.

So far, ethnic Albanians here have been patient over the FYROM-Greece dispute. Albanian parties are in the ruling coalition. Yet the patience may not be unlimited, senior diplomats say.

Artan Grubi, head of an Albanian civil society organization, says, "Most Albanians will tell you they have nothing against building a Macedonian identity. But they don't want to suffer because of it. At the moment, the policies of this government are moving us further from Europe."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0321/p01s01-wogn.html